Hidden safe

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Astrodokk
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Hidden safe

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I read here that someone picked a safe open and replaced the lock.
I am not that good at picking safes, so I would prefer to get a new key from the company by serial number.
Is that even a possibility? How easy is it to oickbtvat safe? It has a tubular key.
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Re: Hidden safe

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Interesting question. And as I remember it, when I removed mine I had to access the bolts from inside (which makes sense). So no easy way to just remove it and bring it to a locksmith.

One thing you might check (if no-one here has the answer) is looking on youtube for how to pick those U-shaped bicycle locks, which have the same style key. (Only in this case you are doing it for a legit purpose.) I thought I "heard" that you could open them with a Bic pen.

Of course now the safe isn't safe anymore, sorry. But then anyone super determined can just cut out the plywood floor, so I still think it's a deterrent.
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Re: Hidden safe

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If it is not completely packed with gold bars inside the safe, it is because 68camaro already picked it open. :lol: Seriously, these locks are not that secure if anyone want to spend the effort, but I never tried it myself ;)
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If you only need to open it so you can remove it, I would drill out the cylinder and replace the whole unit with something a bit more substantial. Incidentally I've popped a few U-locks using an angle grinder. Loud and destructive but entertaining and affective. You could cut a window in the lid that way, but that's not really the type of dust I'd want inside. Liquid nitrogen + hammer & drift works too but the cylinder orientation would make it challenging. I'm probably not helping here but maybe food for thought :twisted: .
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It was opened in 10 seconds in the second try. See the thread below:
viewtopic.php?p=10007#p10007

I may try to open it if I have the time. Mine came with the lock, but the previous owner never realize what the key was for, and that there is even a safe in the rig.

I wish someone have the contact info for the company that made it, and we can just send them the model, serial number and $20 for a new set of keys.
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Holy cow! Good to know. I don't have one in my Chinook, but if it's that easy, it's not much of a safe. If you really want a safe, solid units can be had for cheap.
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It is mostly to keep guns out of kid's hand, and other valuables that you don't want people to just come in when the back door is unlocked, grab and go, etc.

68camaro did spend more than a few seconds on his first try, however.
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I can see it being a slow-down thing, and also keeping little curious hands away. Also, are there laws about carrying certain things locked up (even if it's not the best lock) (?). I don't know for sure though, and I removed the safe just because I wanted the space for other things. Of course, mine came with two keys, because I didn't care whether I had them or not :roll:
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My ears were ringing:) Yes, it was easy to open with correct barrel pick bought inexpensively off eBay or Amazon. It won't stop a dishonest person but will stop an honest person from curiosity.
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Re: Hidden safe

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I replaced the lock on my safe, as it only had one key. Better to do something about it before I misplace it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FT ... UTF8&psc=1

I replaced the seven other common CH751 outside locks with tubular locks. I believe it is still a common key, but at least it's not the same straight key that EVERYONE has. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FT ... UTF8&psc=1

The lock on the safe required the use of the old cam which is reused easily. The cams that came with the outside locks are too short and I had to reuse the old cams. Unfortunately, the new cams have a small rectangular hole and the old cams have a square hole. I had to go to a locksmith to get little adapters to fit in the old cams. A bit of a pain to get everything to fit, but the ease of locking and unlocking the tubular locks over the old locks makes it well worth it.

If someone wants to get into one of the HIGH SECURITY foam board doors on the Concourse, a screwdriver and a bit of force is all that's required. The CH751 keeps a really honest man honest. Changing to the tubular locks keeps a less honest man honest. Hopefully, with these, there's less chance of someone with a CH751 in their pocket walking by your rig and deciding to "see whatcha got". I don't know if this is actually a problem, but I do park at Walmart and other lots with no shortage of interesting folks.
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