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Glacier Slide Adjustment
Posted: April 19th, 2022, 8:59 am
by FatBuoy
Does anyone know how to adjust the slide, horizontally? The rear bottom is actually dragging, if that makes sense. So, if looking at it from the outside, the slide needs to rotate counter-clockwise a bit to level it out.
Re: Glacier Slide Adjustment
Posted: April 19th, 2022, 12:09 pm
by ltg
There are no adjustments for the Glacier cube slide.
The slide is centered in the slide wall opening by the hydraulic ram and support bracket.
The slide rides on two plastic runners - one on each side on the floor beneath the slide. After going beyond the plastic guides, the slide rides on the floor carpet.
The slide may be raised on one side by installing a new plastic guide?
How do I know this? When we purchased our Glacier in 2017 the cube slide was rubbing on the bottom on the right side. On the right side when looking at the cube slide from outside facing the slide. It is still rubbing today.
Soon after purchasing the Glacier in 2017 we went to HWH in Iowa. We were told our slide was working properly. We were also told there are no adjustments for the slide to correct the rubbing on the bottom. We were told that replacing the plastic guide or maybe raising the guide may help.
To do that, the slide would be required to be removed. To do that would require a new slide bladder and new air manifold. It takes two weeks to order a new slide bladder.
So, we did not have the slide removed in an attempt to solve the rubbing issue.
When the slide bladder fails sometime in the future, we will go to HWH to repair the bladder and hopefully the rubbing issue.
It has been five years since we were at HWH.
Re: Glacier Slide Adjustment
Posted: April 19th, 2022, 2:24 pm
by FatBuoy
ltg wrote: April 19th, 2022, 12:09 pm
There are no adjustments for the Glacier cube slide.
The slide is centered in the slide wall opening by the hydraulic ram and support bracket.
The slide rides on two plastic runners - one on each side on the floor beneath the slide. After going beyond the plastic guides, the slide rides on the floor carpet.
The slide may be raised on one side by installing a new plastic guide?
How do I know this? When we purchased our Glacier in 2017 the cube slide was rubbing on the bottom on the right side. On the right side when looking at the cube slide from outside facing the slide. It is still rubbing today.
Soon after purchasing the Glacier in 2017 we went to HWH in Iowa. We were told our slide was working properly. We were also told there are no adjustments for the slide to correct the rubbing on the bottom. We were told that replacing the plastic guide or maybe raising the guide may help.
To do that, the slide would be required to be removed. To do that would require a new slide bladder and new air manifold. It takes two weeks to order a new slide bladder.
So, we did not have the slide removed in an attempt to solve the rubbing issue.
When the slide bladder fails sometime in the future, we will go to HWH to repair the bladder and hopefully the rubbing issue.
It has been five years since we were at HWH.
Thank you! may I ask how you know when a bladder goes out?
Re: Glacier Slide Adjustment
Posted: April 19th, 2022, 3:04 pm
by ltg
When the air bladder develops a leak, the air compressor that inflates the bladder will have to run more than normal to keep the bladder inflated. How often it runs will be determined by how large a leak is in the air bladder. The compressor will run occasionally due to other small leaks in the air compessor system. But with a leak in the air bladder it will run more often a significantly amount of time.
If the bladder has a large leak, it will not inflate at all.
If the air compressor runs more than a few minutes, it is best to pull the fuse, rather than let the run time destroy the air compressor.
Re: Glacier Slide Adjustment
Posted: April 20th, 2022, 4:40 am
by FatBuoy
ltg wrote: April 19th, 2022, 3:04 pm
When the air bladder develops a leak, the air compressor that inflates the bladder will have to run more than normal to keep the bladder inflated. How often it runs will be determined by how large a leak is in the air bladder. The compressor will run occasionally due to other small leaks in the air compessor system. But with a leak in the air bladder it will run more often a significantly amount of time.
If the bladder has a large leak, it will not inflate at all.
If the air compressor runs more than a few minutes, it is best to pull the fuse, rather than let the run time destroy the air compressor.
Makes sense. When you deflate it, by turning the key on and wailing for the yellow light to stop blinking, do you hear anything? I don't, but I've read that some systems evacuate the bladder, while others just let it deflate naturally.
Also, I read that when extending or retracting, you hold the button down until it quits making noise and the light goes off. It does that for me when retracting, but never stops when extending. Any ideas what that could be?
Re: Glacier Slide Adjustment
Posted: April 20th, 2022, 4:41 am
by FatBuoy
FatBuoy wrote: April 20th, 2022, 4:40 am
ltg wrote: April 19th, 2022, 3:04 pm
When the air bladder develops a leak, the air compressor that inflates the bladder will have to run more than normal to keep the bladder inflated. How often it runs will be determined by how large a leak is in the air bladder. The compressor will run occasionally due to other small leaks in the air compessor system. But with a leak in the air bladder it will run more often a significantly amount of time.
If the bladder has a large leak, it will not inflate at all.
If the air compressor runs more than a few minutes, it is best to pull the fuse, rather than let the run time destroy the air compressor.
Makes sense. When you deflate it, by turning the key on and wailing for the yellow light to stop blinking, do you hear anything? I don't, but I've read that some systems evacuate the bladder, while others just let it deflate naturally.
Also, I read that when extending or retracting, you hold the button down until it quits making noise and the light goes off. It does that for me when retracting, but never stops when extending. Any ideas what that could be? Never stops until I release the switch that is.
Re: Glacier Slide Adjustment
Posted: April 20th, 2022, 8:13 am
by ltg
When the key is turned to activate the slide, the air compressor will create a vacuum to deflate the bladder. The pump will run at that time. Or, if there was enough air pressure in the air tank, the pump may not run until a few minutes later to refill the air tank. If you do not hear the tank, then you need to have someone assist you by being at the slide out equipment bay to determine if the pump is running.
If you are tall enough, you can look above the slide, inside the coach and see the air bladder deflating. There will be light shining thru the opening.
If the pump does not quit running after the slide is extended, the room out switch may not be working. The room out switch is located under the coach. Open the coach access board and the switch will be at the end of the ram aluminum brackets. It is close to the water lines that run between the water tanks. The switch can be adjusted so it makes contact when the slide is out.
Re: Glacier Slide Adjustment
Posted: April 20th, 2022, 10:50 am
by FatBuoy
ltg wrote: April 20th, 2022, 8:13 am
When the key is turned to activate the slide, the air compressor will create a vacuum to deflate the bladder. The pump will run at that time. Or, if there was enough air pressure in the air tank, the pump may not run until a few minutes later to refill the air tank. If you do not hear the tank, then you need to have someone assist you by being at the slide out equipment bay to determine if the pump is running.
If you are tall enough, you can look above the slide, inside the coach and see the air bladder deflating. There will be light shining thru the opening.
If the pump does not quit running after the slide is extended, the room out switch may not be working. The room out switch is located under the coach. Open the coach access board and the switch will be at the end of the ram aluminum brackets. It is close to the water lines that run between the water tanks. The switch can be adjusted so it makes contact when the slide is out.
This may be a dumb question, but how does a fully pressurized air tank deflate a bladder? I've never heard the compressor come on when I turn the key to deflate.
Re: Glacier Slide Adjustment
Posted: April 20th, 2022, 12:43 pm
by ltg
The HWH air manifold includes a vacuum venturi that creates a vacuum from the air compressor or air tank.
Have you ever heard the air compressor run? It has to run to deflate and inflate the air bladder.
If the air compressor is not running, the air bladder is not deflating or inflating. It is as simple as that.
Re: Glacier Slide Adjustment
Posted: April 25th, 2022, 9:17 am
by FatBuoy
ltg wrote: April 19th, 2022, 12:09 pm
There are no adjustments for the Glacier cube slide.
The slide is centered in the slide wall opening by the hydraulic ram and support bracket.
The slide rides on two plastic runners - one on each side on the floor beneath the slide. After going beyond the plastic guides, the slide rides on the floor carpet.
The slide may be raised on one side by installing a new plastic guide?
How do I know this? When we purchased our Glacier in 2017 the cube slide was rubbing on the bottom on the right side. On the right side when looking at the cube slide from outside facing the slide. It is still rubbing today.
Soon after purchasing the Glacier in 2017 we went to HWH in Iowa. We were told our slide was working properly. We were also told there are no adjustments for the slide to correct the rubbing on the bottom. We were told that replacing the plastic guide or maybe raising the guide may help.
To do that, the slide would be required to be removed. To do that would require a new slide bladder and new air manifold. It takes two weeks to order a new slide bladder.
So, we did not have the slide removed in an attempt to solve the rubbing issue.
When the slide bladder fails sometime in the future, we will go to HWH to repair the bladder and hopefully the rubbing issue.
It has been five years since we were at HWH.
Bringing this back up, as I did verify the bladder is functioning and holding. I am just needing to replace a leaky in-live valve, which they are sending.
So, just to confirm- if you remove the slide to repair the rubbing, you HAVE to replace the bladder? Does it damage it? I, like you, would not fix it if I had to replace a properly functioning bladder. I did talk to HWH last week about some other things, and he said that the rubbing "could" damage the bladder over time, but wasn't 100% sure about that. It seems that when deflated, there wouldn't be a lot of pressure on it from the slide. These are all speculations on my part.