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Re: New to Chinook

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Good luck!

Got (and willing to give) a link so we can all chime in with helpful peanut gallery comments? ;)

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re: rack. Here's an thread about a Chinook one:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=76

Gosh, and you can have it recreated for "only" $5900. :o

Yikes. I think I'd find a local metal shop and make buddies with them!
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Sure why not :shock:

kdarling, when buying shocks are they Chinook specific, E350 specific, or RV specific. I went to Tire Rack (who I have used many time over the years) but didn't see Chinook?
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Yes saw that thread. I can have one custom made for WAY less!!!! (I know a welding shop)
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Although I bought my Bilsteins from Tire Rack on eBay (see below), I used SD Truck Springs (where I got my sway bar) as a number source, along with other places such as Chinook forums.

http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/shock-abs ... rhome/ford

Use the 1992-2012 E350 Class C rows. Note that often the "superceded" stock number is the one you'll still find as being more available.

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Here's an example eBay link for the front shocks. Best price each I've seen:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/361885750053

And the rear:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/381941511830

Please cross check the numbers in case I goofed :)
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Will Ford dealerships do things like replace shocks on Chinooks or do you need to go to RV dealership?
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Dunno. I did my rear but it was a pain, partly because of having to cut off the top nuts, and mostly because of having to use a jack to compress each shock to where I could insert the bottom bolt.

After that fun, I would not want to do the fronts myself, especially the notoriously difficult to access left front :shock:

So I plan to call around to front end and truck places, until I find one who's very familiar with E series shock replacement.

Hopefully others will chime in with their experiences.
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Re: buying. Find an inspection checklist. e.g. https://www.thorindustries.com/getting- ... checklist/

Important: know how to check tire dates. Every owner seems to remember it like they just put on tires last year :)

Sure they might only have 5,000 miles on them, but they could easily be ten years old... and it's usually recommended to closely watch RV tires over five years old, especially if they've been sitting in the sunlight the whole time, and definitely replace them by ten years.

Needing tires alone should drop the price by $1500 or more. Don't forget you'll need 7 of them.

We should start a buying tips thread. If there isn't already one in the past.
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M Spec wrote:Will Ford dealerships do things like replace shocks on Chinooks or do you need to go to RV dealership?

When having my rig serviced and repainted at a major RV service center in Elkhart, IN last year, it was sent to a large Firestone truck fleet service center for new tires and shocks. These guys were set up for large rigs and heavy duty fleet trucks. I was very happy with their recommendations and work. I have also taken the Chinook to my local Ford dealer (medium size dealership) for engine diagnostics and service. They will do drivetrain and chassis maintenance as well. Something to be said in using real FoMoCo parts at times. ;)
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Thanks guys for the tips. As for tire dates, I am well aware. Dates are important. Having owned (built and or modified) approx 70 cars in my life time (currently have 7) I do know tires...however I know diddly-squat about RV's :lol: The more info you guys pass on the better!!!
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pdemarest wrote:Hey Blu - does that E450 rear sway bar ride softer than the aftermarket bar? I've had IPD bars on some Volvos I owned years ago but they definitely rode pretty hard, but than I was driving pretty hard back then. I have an aftermarket bar on mine (haven't been under it enough to remember the make) and that back end shudders over every little bump. Tried running my tires at 50 psi and air spring helpers at 30 psi but its still pretty harsh.
It's a Volvo that I had my first anti-sway bars on. And yeah, on that I also ended up with the "turbo" bars because they were halfway between stock and IPD in thickness, and turned out to be the "just right" bear for me.

When I put the aftermarket bars on my Chinook (Roadmaster, which is IPD), I had the SAME issue. The handling (curves, etc.) was great, but the rear end shuddered and jounced over every little pebble (which is what I called "harsh"). I drove home from the shop on the same roads I'd driven up on, and had things falling off (of counters and such) that had never budged in thousands of miles. So that had to go.

Ultimately I kept the front Roadmaster bar, but went with a stock (from a junkyard) E-450 rear bar. That was right between the stock E-350 bar and the Roadmaster bar in thickness. It gave me most of the goodness of the heavier bar without the added harshness. So to recap, bar-wise, I ended up with the Roadmaster front bar, and the E-450 rear bar.

I think that was the main thing, but I also tweaked my rear shocks. I had put on Koni FSD all the way around, and they were fine; but when I did the bars I changed the rear shocks to Koni adjustables, which I set on the softest setting. I don't think that made as much difference as the bars (and maybe was unnecessary), but at the time I wanted the adjustability until I was sure I had a handle on things.

M Spec,

Good luck on the Chinook candidate! On the maintenance, I find it's a bit of a mix.

1) For the Ford chassis stuff, either a Ford dealer (but not all Ford dealers are that experienced with the dually rig - there are Ford dealers that specialize in fleet vehicles and I think they'd be better). Or, an independent shop, but sometimes being able to lift can be an issue. For example, one shop I really like can only do things that can be done outside and not needing a lift. So I can't get everything done there. But essentially, 99% of the chassis is Ford. Our 21-ers are typically an E-350 dual rear wheel classification. But many parts cross over from E-250, E-350 single wheel, etc. Van parts can be annoying to look up because are they calling it "van," "Econoline," "E-350," or something else...

2) For the coach things, appliances are just whatever brand they are, and typically not Chinook specific. The wiring is done by Chinook, but uses some brand specific parts (Sure Power, etc.). Windows are often Hehr, but were sometimes Se-Gi. And the walls, floor, and etc. were basically custom so any work needed is on a case-by-case basis. Fiberglass can be handled by a boat repair shop if anything needs to be done.

One thing I'd suggest right away (presuming you will have the "eight hand hole" wheels) -- because it can cause some really annoying problems on the road otherwise -- is to get some extended valve stems. Not the "extenders," which are floppy things that screw onto normal valve stems, but rather fully metal valve stems that are "custom bent" (but you can buy them off the shelf) for our wheels. I think I have a post on these in the archives here with photos so you can see what I mean. Either Borg or Tireman make them ready to go for the E-350 dually. Dually tire issues on the road are even less fun than "singly" ones (see above about lifting, towing, etc.) Being able to check and fill the tires like a breeze helps a lot, as does not having the extenders hoses that can leak, get caught, drag, etc.

Happy shopping!

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